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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2016 2:15:20 GMT
I was sorta daydreaming about a camouflaged boat, making it look like an island, but turns out that's already been done. You can rent or buy such a thing already: duckduckgo.com/?q=tikki+barge&ia=images&iax=1I didn't say it was practical, and they all look like boats with plants, but they got half way there!
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Post by thebastidge on Oct 2, 2016 17:40:47 GMT
I don't think it's entirely impractical at all. I think something like it is actually necessary.
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Post by Bob Dohse on Nov 12, 2016 22:28:35 GMT
I imagine floating islands could potentially be quite useful in certain circumstances.
I contrast to the commerce-and-condos vision of some water-steaders, I see no reason why floating communities could not include a flotilla of small islands.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2016 6:19:18 GMT
I am not against floating islands, but there are many features of the typical island that isn't the same as a floating garden. With the huge effort of building a floating home or business, adding to that the features of an island, seem excessive. That said, making it look like Pitcarin would be easier. Making it look like one of the low-lying sand islands would redesign everything about the boat.
I have said before i am in favor of floating gardens, for "waste" recycling, human and animal food, and quiet green spaces to sit and think (or not think).
Why are you in favor of floating islands?
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Post by thebastidge on Nov 22, 2016 0:33:39 GMT
Because humans need more than the "made environment" for long term health, physical and psychological.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2016 2:57:48 GMT
Because humans need more than the "made environment" for long term health, physical and psychological. But you will need to make the floating island! Or do you know of naturally occuring floating islands, of many sizes and shapes we can choose from, free for the taking?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2016 3:13:31 GMT
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Post by thebastidge on Nov 22, 2016 17:09:25 GMT
I was unclear. In the absence of a natural environment, people need something that at least emulates a natural environment. We create parks in cities. We install viewpoint windows rather than just skylights. We keep potted plants in our houses.
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Post by thebastidge on Nov 22, 2016 18:07:06 GMT
Sandy beaches don't make islands. What do you need beaches for (rhetorical): recreation, beaching boats without damaging keels...
Lots of recreation available from a dock, pier, or even a rocky shore. Boat haul-out can be managed with equipment.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2016 23:44:50 GMT
I have often advocated dedicated spaces in the sun where one could sit and be out of sight of the technological wonder of the seastead. If one is lucky enough, a place with fruit trees or tall shrubs, and wandering animals, such as chickens and rabbits. Such a place would also provide food. A shallow ledge in the water might be a good idea, however in the ocean it may be difficult to maintain "shallow". In some places, a shallows would attract gators or crocs.
This isn't such a dream utopia situation, it could be the roof of any large floatie, where power and water are generated and stored, the food and fuels are stored, small boats and other things are repaired, or people generally just live. On a 24x24 building's roof, you could have planted a square foot for each day of the year, and still have a 14x14 foot space to lie back and star gaze. You put the solar collectors around the edge, over the walk-arounds below, as shade.
I wouldn't call this a description of an island though.
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Post by bobdohse on Nov 30, 2016 1:57:55 GMT
A shallow ledge in the water might be a good idea, however in the ocean it may be difficult to maintain "shallow". In some places, a shallows would attract gators or crocs. Unless you want to park a boat on your "beach", you can create a contained lagoon (swimming hole with a mesh bottom) that holds sand along the edge's bench. Without an accessible edge, a croc or gater can't get access. On the ocean ... eliminating currents and waves eliminates beach sand migration. Not exactly like nature does it, but it works for those recreational moments.
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Post by bobdohse on Nov 30, 2016 2:03:18 GMT
In the absence of a natural environment, people need something that at least emulates a natural environment. We create parks in cities. We install viewpoint windows rather than just skylights. We keep potted plants in our houses. There were some research papers on this earlier in the year. Exposure to nature does something in the body to generate good neurochemicals that relax people. More oxytocin, less cortisol, etc.
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Post by IsacCet on Feb 25, 2022 14:12:07 GMT
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