Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2016 1:50:21 GMT
There are so many features desireable in an incubator, a place which may become a permanent interface between land and water, that not all wishes will come true in one site. There's decisions and tradeoffs and beauties and gotchas.
If the goal is to be on the water, and resources are limited, It isn't going to help seasteading a whole lot to have all the time and money and work spent on a nice private marina, and not have a boat in the water. But having the best of platforms, boats, lillypads, donuts, or spheres doesn't guarantee you a place you can dock your boat, hop into a land vehicle, and go somewhere at any time, affordably, and pull a trailer of supplies (there's many things that just won't fit in a taxi or on a 1/2 ton pickup truck). A seastead needs the internet, needs a place UPS/USPS can deliver to, but that can be a 16x16 cabin on a rental spot, or maybe a rv in a trailer park. Insurance against theft, vandalism, replacement costs, upkeep of things you leave on land might be impossible to get, depending on conditions, and tax liabilities may be a huge issue.
The downside to having property in a marsh is that it will disappear one day, that it will flood severely periodically, and as a limited resource it will be pricey anyhow. A compromise may be a small spot of land that is a place for mail/package dropoffs and internet access and nothing else, and then using a marina (or even a public boat ramp) and a ro-ro to handle going to/from land/water. Perhaps a place to park your land vehicle and sleep the night when you are running too late to boat home, that's pretty important when you need it, but must you own that tiny spot of land? Do you know for certain that land won't wash away next hurricane, or that in two years another location is better for an incubator (for any number of unforeseen circumstances)?
A downside to any property is neighbors and laws. You cannot do commercial or industrial stuff in a residential area, and you cannot live in an industrial area. People will complain, people will sabotage. If one goal of an incubator is the making of boats, or assembly of premade boats, or seasteads of another description, i cannot help but think you can build and float raw bare square footage for about the cost of useable bare waterfront land on deep water (based on $95k per acre, costs of various improvements not included), and you can park that floating land well away from interference (tomorrow you could park it in a different county, state, or country). There are still laws afloat, but there isn't one against making noise at 3am, there isn't one against sitting outside with a telescope and watching a planet, there isn't one against having a small garden, or collecting rainwater or having solar collectors. It's generally recognised your activities should not be a nuisance to the neighbors, but if your boat assembly is floating, you can park where there's no one within 10 miles.
But, it's pretty clear seasteading needs to supply the land interface site for the seasteader(s) to access the normal supply chain and other benefits of land, to buy and sell on land, to be the transition point from land to water.
Please mention other tradeoffs, options, and how you'd weigh each feature of the seastead and land interface situation.
If the goal is to be on the water, and resources are limited, It isn't going to help seasteading a whole lot to have all the time and money and work spent on a nice private marina, and not have a boat in the water. But having the best of platforms, boats, lillypads, donuts, or spheres doesn't guarantee you a place you can dock your boat, hop into a land vehicle, and go somewhere at any time, affordably, and pull a trailer of supplies (there's many things that just won't fit in a taxi or on a 1/2 ton pickup truck). A seastead needs the internet, needs a place UPS/USPS can deliver to, but that can be a 16x16 cabin on a rental spot, or maybe a rv in a trailer park. Insurance against theft, vandalism, replacement costs, upkeep of things you leave on land might be impossible to get, depending on conditions, and tax liabilities may be a huge issue.
The downside to having property in a marsh is that it will disappear one day, that it will flood severely periodically, and as a limited resource it will be pricey anyhow. A compromise may be a small spot of land that is a place for mail/package dropoffs and internet access and nothing else, and then using a marina (or even a public boat ramp) and a ro-ro to handle going to/from land/water. Perhaps a place to park your land vehicle and sleep the night when you are running too late to boat home, that's pretty important when you need it, but must you own that tiny spot of land? Do you know for certain that land won't wash away next hurricane, or that in two years another location is better for an incubator (for any number of unforeseen circumstances)?
A downside to any property is neighbors and laws. You cannot do commercial or industrial stuff in a residential area, and you cannot live in an industrial area. People will complain, people will sabotage. If one goal of an incubator is the making of boats, or assembly of premade boats, or seasteads of another description, i cannot help but think you can build and float raw bare square footage for about the cost of useable bare waterfront land on deep water (based on $95k per acre, costs of various improvements not included), and you can park that floating land well away from interference (tomorrow you could park it in a different county, state, or country). There are still laws afloat, but there isn't one against making noise at 3am, there isn't one against sitting outside with a telescope and watching a planet, there isn't one against having a small garden, or collecting rainwater or having solar collectors. It's generally recognised your activities should not be a nuisance to the neighbors, but if your boat assembly is floating, you can park where there's no one within 10 miles.
But, it's pretty clear seasteading needs to supply the land interface site for the seasteader(s) to access the normal supply chain and other benefits of land, to buy and sell on land, to be the transition point from land to water.
Please mention other tradeoffs, options, and how you'd weigh each feature of the seastead and land interface situation.